• boonhet@lemm.ee
      2·
      2 days ago

      I don’t even need to install any new packages to get that

      sudo zypper dup

      992 packages to upgrade, 2 to downgrade, 18 new, 3 to remove.

      Package download size: 1.81 GiB

      Half the packages are LibQT6something or LibKF6 something lol

    • Possibly linux@lemmy.zipEnglish
      1·
      2 days ago

      Gnome on Debian is fairly out of date. I personally like all the new features.

      However, I think it would be cool if you could run Fedora with gnome in Podman. Solid base with containers for newer stuff.

      • kusivittula@sopuli.xyz
        1·
        4 days ago

        I have tried both kde and gnome many times and i can’t stand either one. I’m forever stuck in cinnamon.

        somehow every distro that ships with kde has tons of big bugs that I can’t figure out (probably related to my setup), and gnome feels like a tablet UI. cinnamon won’t autosuspend but it’s the smallest headache of these…

        • BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca
          1·
          4 days ago

          Funny enough Cinnamon is Gnome 3 done right.

          And I agree gnome in general has its sore points, I’m just used to them.

          • kusivittula@sopuli.xyz
            0·
            4 days ago

            I have actually been itching to do that, but I read that it messes up cinnamon so there’s no going back and I don’t have the time to do a full reinstall now. btw what happens to all the software you have installed? do they stay and still work properly?

            • Laurel Raven@lemmy.zipEnglish
              2·
              2 days ago

              I have no clue what the issues are with Cinnamon getting messed up, but mine works just fine still. Even went back to using it for a bit when changing my monitor setup broke KDE for a bit (some poller service wasn’t getting the responses it was expecting and it kept messing up the resolutions and disconnecting one of them until I figured it out and turned it off)

      • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
        0·
        4 days ago

        I don’t even know which version of GNOME I run anymore. I only notice when the GNOME devs remove some feature I used to use.

        • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          1·
          4 days ago

          Yeah, about the same. Honestly I’m in a state that I don’t really care even. GNOME does everything that I need it to while being very invisible and out of the way and I love it

  • TommySoda@lemmy.world
    4·
    4 days ago

    Very dumb question, but I’m kinda new to Linux. Do I have to manually update that or does it just do it when I update packages and the like? I’m on Arch btw.

        • Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee
          9·
          4 days ago

          “I use Arch BTW” is a meme in the Linux community. It reflects the perceived urge of Arch users to boast about using it.

          Welcome to Linux :)

        • TimeNaan@lemmy.world
          62·
          4 days ago

          Then Arch is kind of a terrible choice for you. I use it (btw), but I’ve been using linux since 2008.

          The learning curve and constant need to troubleshoot things isn’t great for beginners.

          EDIT: can someone explain why I’m getting downvoted? Isn’t this common knowledge that Mint and other begginner-friendly distros that don’t have complicated package managers and require less configuration and maintenance are better for someone who’s just starting with Linux?

          I myself began with Ubuntu back in '08 but nowadays use both Arch and Mint.

          • TommySoda@lemmy.world
            4·
            4 days ago

            That’s one of the reasons I chose arch. Because of the difficulty i can’t take shortcuts or be lazy and have to actually learn. When I tried something like Pop_OS I definitely enjoyed it but didn’t really learn anything because it was all done for me.

            • cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de
              1·
              4 days ago

              Arch Linux can be a bit overwhelming for newbies when trying out for the first time. Hey if you are comfortable with it then so be it. But if you have tried other friendly distros before this you can get an understanding of different package managers, arch packages, AUR etc. And to answer the question if you installed KDE through pacman or AUR helper, then it will be updated automatically when you update other packages through it.

    • superkret@feddit.org
      3·
      4 days ago

      It does it automatically.
      But make sure to read the Arch news before every update, especially when it’s a lot of packages. Something big like a new KDE Release might require minor manual intervention.

    • Communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyzEnglish
      1·
      4 days ago

      On linux, generally everything you install is through a centralized repository, you can think of it as an app store, arch is all entirely updated through pacman, pacman is just a command line way to interact with the app store.

    • 97xBang@feddit.onlineEnglish
      21·
      4 days ago

      There’s no way you’re so new to Linux that you wouldn’t know if that would update automatically yet you’re running Arch btw. That’s like saying, “Do I need to do oil changes on my car? I built my engine, btw.”

      • TriflingToad@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        3·
        4 days ago

        all you have to do to “run” arch is type out some lines from a YouTube video and press enter. With all the people saying “Arch! Arch!” at every corner it’s totally understandable that someone would try it and still be confused on basic stuff.

      • mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        2·
        4 days ago

        Arch stereotype is over with archinstall and direct step by step tutorial. You don’t need to know how new release get updated to install arch

      • FooBarrington@lemmy.world
        1·
        4 days ago

        Nah, there’s a bunch of people (even on Lemmy) that recommend Arch or Arch-derived distributions to newbies. Many mention they haven’t used any other distro themselves.

        • Possibly linux@lemmy.zipEnglish
          2·
          2 days ago

          People are nuts

          I once had someone tell me that they use Arch on there server since it is stable. If it works that is fine but don’t go around telling people that Arch is more stable than Ubuntu, Rocky or Debian.

    • Petter1@lemm.ee
      01·
      3 days ago

      New to arch and new to Linux:

      Install a yogurt, or yet another one!

    • Matriks404@lemmy.world
      1·
      3 days ago

      I was running MATE door years before switching to Windows 8.1 and shortly after first public beta of Windows 10 when it was available. I was even helping translating it to Polish for like a month or two, but given that I was probably like B1 (about B2 right now) in English at that time it was probably not ideal, lol.