Freunde, you’re just eating Pringles wrong.

Mwahahaha!

Yes, exactly. You need those rankings per voter - did you see that data somewhere? I saw only the summary.

Edit Ah! The ods threw me off; I hadn’t looked at it because I needed to get it on my computer.

Yup! It looks like ranked choice, and with a little data massaging, we can get some interesting results. Stay tuned!

👍 Thanks. I’m surprised, and still skeptical, but thanks.

Ok, so get this: we had a 17 hand Percheron gelding - for those who don’t know horses, this a horse that literally weighs over a ton - and we borrowed an older pony mare from a neighbor to keep him company. I don’t know how big she was, but her head barely came up the the bottom of his belly. And she utterly dominated him. We had a barn with a single - Percheron size - run-in stall, and if it rained she’d get in there and keep him out, and we’d have to go bring him into one of the other stalls.

She was actually pretty sweet to people; not bitey like some can be. But she took no shit from our boy.

Ponies are bad-ass.

I love America (maybe less now than in 2023, but still), but one of our great failings has been to ignore Eisenhower when he warned America about the military industrial complex. Most of my generation blames American imperialism on Big Oil, but I think the real roots lie in the MIC.

I’m going to continue voting for the lesser of true evils because choosing to not participate is provably worse.

I agree we need to fix the system, and people are working to do that. When the choice is between someone who doesn’t support you, and someone who actively, vocally supports your eradication, you have to be a particular kind of stupid to think sitting on the sidelines is going to help. This is why languages have metaphors and similes against doing what so many people did, like “burying your head in the sand,” and “sitting on the sidelines,” and probably the most ironic of all given to origin, “all that it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing.”

Which is exactly what they did. And now their people are suffering for it, asks women are suffering for it, and minorities, and civil rights… but hey, at least they made a bunch of other people suffer, too, huh?

This.

It’s Far Side, but if Centaurs were IRL they’d be able to understand and obey instructing instructions and not have to be put down. With today’s technology, they might even be able to return to a mostly normal life, although modern domestic horses are remarkable fragile and we ask a lot of them given the structure we’ve bred them to for their size.

Ponies, OTOH, are tough little bastards and will fuck you up.

Btw, why are you actually even surprised by it?

Well, because Redhat was the first linux distribution I used, and I did so four about 6 years personally and then another decade professionally (various versions, from CentOS to RHEL) and IME it’s by far the worst distribution I’ve used, and RPM is, and always had been, a clusterfuck of a package management system. The excuse for use in Enterprise was that companies could pay for 24/7 service support, and that is often a deciding factor, especially if OPs has a strong voice in the decision process; but by god is it a horrible system.

I’m actually pretty oblivious to any Redhat controversy; I don’t bother reading anything Redhat-related anymore.

I’m not surprised that it’s widely used, for the same reason I’m not surprised Microsoft is widely used: because of the enterprise decision process. But the popularity surprises me.

Did they provide raw scores?

Yup! Here:

Thanks!

Ah, would this comment help?

I saw that; absolute values would be preferable, but I can work with percentages - two decimal places of accuracy should be fine. It’s not like we’re trying to do science here.

I’m more interested in a ranked-choice version of this poll.

Me too. I suppose you could retro-actively use the raw scores for this. I’m curious of your findings!

I think you can’t, because it requires each voter to rank their preferences, which requires a specific form of voting mechanism. I didn’t participate in the poll, but if it was run as ranked choice, and if we had access to the raw, per-voter results, and if the sample size was sufficiently large; then yeah - we could run a full Condorcet count and get some interesting answers!

The hard part about doing an “should these two distros go into the same bucket” evaluation is determining how closely related distros are. For example, I wouldn’t consider Mint to be Debian because there are no number of packages you can remove from Mint to make it pure Debian without breaking it. Believe me, I’ve tried. At some point, there’s are very Mint-specific packages which, if you remove them, the system won’t boot. A dedicated and knowledgeable enough person might be able to swap packages out and keep a running system, but the Mint-ness is woven in pretty deeply into some core package dependencies. I suspect the same is true for Ubuntu->Debian, but maybe not for Kubuntu->Ubuntu. I know you can go from Arch->Artix and back again, although it’s a bit of work. I don’t know if you could remove enough of EndeavourOS to get pure Arch and still have a bootable system (I haven’t tried).

So, you could just bucket everything by package manager - does it use apt? Then it’s Debian! Although, now with Snap, how much is Ubuntu based on Debian anymore, anyway? Anyway, this is the last, uninteresting way.

More interesting is bucketing by whether it’s reasonably possible to convert one distribution to another. I suspect you could turn Arch into Endeavor by changing some source package lists, running an upgrade and maybe installing a package or a dozen. Figuring this out for every distribution would be hard.

The docs don’t say it’s completely offline. Can you turn off your LAN connection and it still works? Have you tried this? Or just firewall off out bound access to Google services?

This comment:

Contrary to what the name suggests, the integration only does text-to-speech and does not translate messages sent to it.

doesn’t say it doesn’t call out to Google services; it says only that it doesn’t use translation services. I didn’t see anything else that implies it doesn’t send data to Google.

Ah, then maybe I’ve never worn actual Crocs. The ones I tried felt really plastic-y.

In case the user changes the mirror list on the live session, these will be used instead, and not ranked in the installation process again,” said the devs, who also mentioned the fact that users should expect a somewhat irregular release schedule for now due to life circumstances

Emphasis mine.

Shit.

I’m surprised to see Fedora ranked so highly.

Did they provide raw scores? I’m curious about two things, one is which could be determined from vote counts, and the other which would require a different voting system:

• I kinda want to roll up the values into the base distribution, and rank that. Distros obviously add value, but Endeavor and Cachy are a couple of extra (removable) packages descended from Arch. There’s a hard, subjective version: “Is Ubuntu really just Debian with extra packages?” ; an easier version of this: “can Y be turned into base X without dramatic system modification?”; and a really easy, but probably uninteresting version: “is Y descended from X?”.
• I’m more interested in a ranked-choice version of this poll. While I suspect the results would be similar to the second evaluation version above - users are likely to rank ancestor or siblings above other base distros - it still might be interesting. E.G., I like EndeavorOS but might rank Alpine over base Arch.

Google? Have you verified that?

Radio has especially durable blood.

Really?

No, I’m serious. I don’t have crocs for a variety of reasons, so I’m ignorant and possibly a my own expense. I have slid my feet into other’s once or twice, you know, when visiting and needing to cross a wet yard, and they’ve always felt uncomfortable to me.

Easy to put on, I get, but that’s true of half the shoe designs out there. Cleaning… Ok I can see that. Spray them down with a garden hose, right? But comfortable? Can you explain that?

I, too, am curious about the appeal. Not enough to wear a pair, but perhaps you can explain. Are they like leather, and conform to your feet over time?

DMCA is widely abused; it’s a knee-jerk corporate reaction, and by now most DMCA notices are probably being sent out by LLMs. Very likely, a substantial percentage are not even valid - either targeting content that the requester has no claim to, is falsely identified, a form of harassment, or targeting content which is justifiably and legally fair-use.

Hosting services don’t even try to validate these claims. You assume OP is asking for piracy reasons; we have no way of knowing, but I’m always going to side with the content providers against the gross abuse of DCMA by media corporations.

Nyes?

GL-iNet devices run DD-WRT, with an added (probably not open source) web interface. However, if you ssh into any of their routers, it’s BusyBox and DD-WRT. And if you click go into the admin web page and click System->Advanced you end up with a link that takes you to luci, the raw DD-WRT web UI for the device. The company’s UI is just a simpler, more pretty UI on top of DD-WRT.

Rust is dead. Haven’t you heard? We’re rewriting everything in Zig now.

Rust should be deprecated.

On a more serious note, having a CTO at Microsoft, of all places, jump in on your side is kind of embarrassing. With one exception, code written at Microsoft has been some of the worst, most insecure, in the world.

Every time I see one of these posts about an OSS project finally moving off Twitter, I have this same baffled reaction: why the fuck were they still using it‽