• JacobCoffinWrites@slrpnk.net
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      It’s nice that their incentives finally line up with something I want. Now if only building surveillance into new cars was somehow unprofitable.

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        You sure about that? The Cybertruck, ugly as it is, is a king size vehicle with plenty of range. There’s also the Rivian truck. Plenty of size and range. Hummer — huge, currently gets 315 miles on a full charge. Dodge RAM full size EV, will go 619 miles. Will be interesting to see what Scout ships.

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          Yeah, they added more weight with more batteries but they didn’t solve the problem.

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            But were these problems ever solved for non EVs? I mean the bigger and less aerodynamic the car, the more energy it takes to move it. That’s simple physics no matter what technology you’re using. That’s why IMHO SUVs and trucks are a pretty bad choice for an everyday vehicle.

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              Yes, they’re easily solved with a larger fuel tank that can take you further before refilling. “Doubling the range” on an ICE vehicle is as simple as some extra plastic/sheet metal with very little cost. The same isn’t true for battery packs. The physics of it is that gasoline and diesel have more energy density than lithium (or other current compounds) batteries.

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                But how is that an unresolveable problem?

                Energy density of batteries is getting higher while prices are shrinking year by year. You can of course question if makes sense to keep throwing more and more batteries at a car with the size of a yacht instead of building a more efficient vehicle. But it’s not unresolveable.

                The unresolveable part from my perspective is the underlying physics: more weight, big tires (at slow speeds) and poor aerodynamics (at higher speeds) increase consumption. And that problem was there all the time.

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    Hydrogen is looking better and better for those needs. My city runs a fleet of hydrogen busses and they’ve been a great investment so far. They are outscaling the other busses, including electric.